Have you ever found yourself curious about the unique experiences of being gay in today's world? Join us as we dive into the vibrant, nuanced realm of gay dating, sex, drugs, and masculinity with board-certified sexology educator and host of the Sex Ed With Tim Podcast, Tim Lagman. Known for his unapologetic authenticity as a 'chaotic homo', Tim is dedicated to advocating for LGBT sexual health, pleasure, and social activism. With his charismatic humor and enlightening insights, he'll guide us on an entertaining, laughter-filled journey through the intricacies of gay love and relationships. Get ready to step into a new world, challenge your perceptions, and perhaps discover something extraordinary. Our exploration starts here!
Have you ever found yourself curious about the unique experiences of being gay in today's world? Join us as we dive into the vibrant, nuanced realm of gay dating, sex, drugs, and masculinity with board-certified sexology educator and host of the Sex Ed With Tim Podcast, Tim Lagman. Known for his unapologetic authenticity as a 'chaotic homo', Tim is dedicated to advocating for LGBT sexual health, pleasure, and social activism. With his charismatic humor and enlightening insights, he'll guide us on an entertaining, laughter-filled journey through the intricacies of gay love and relationships. Get ready to step into a new world, challenge your perceptions, and perhaps discover something extraordinary. Our exploration starts here!
Show notes:
03:42 What is a Certified Sexology educator
05:20 Straight identified men that see gay sex workers
09:14 Gay men and body image
11:34 Dating on Grindr
13:49 Discrimination on Grindr
14:34 Performance anxiety
16:40 Sex is more than having a hard penis
18:45: Poppers
21:24 Crystal meth
22:38 HIV epidemic
22:45 Unfairness in the healthcare system
23:00 Party drugs and gay culture
25:12 Harm reduction versus abstinence model
26:22 PrEP (Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis)
32:24 Dating apps
33:56 Having clear boundaries
35:23 This show is produced by Katie Jensen at Vocal Fry Studios. Show ideas or questions? Email michelle@getsome.ca and follow me on Instagram @getsome_podcast
About Tim Lagman:
Tim is a board certified sexology educator with the American Board of Sexology and a pleasure advocate based in Toronto, Canada. He began his sexual journey through escorting where he worked with a number of clients from different backgrounds and all walks of life ranging from couples, individuals, poly relationships, and everything in between. He then went to obtain his advanced diploma in Business Management and graduated with honours. Combining his knowledge of sex and business, he decided to combine the two fields to start his journey as a sex educator delivering workshops, speaking on panels, shows, and podcasts, and providing expert advice on sexual health publications. In his free time, Tim likes to volunteer and give back to the community through outreach in Toronto’s LGBTQ+ scene providing sex education and harm reduction resources to the public. It is his mission in life to make sex fun and funny as he loves to make people laugh and believes in the curative powers of hilarity. Sex is already a sensitive and touchy subject. We might as well laugh at the fart noises!
Find Tim Here:
https://www.sexedwithtim.com/about-me
https://www.instagram.com/sexedwithtim
https://www.instagram.com/gayslutclown
Resources:
This is a list of common party drugs as well as safer substance usage techniques and overdose prevention
This one is specifically for crystal meth and finding addiction support (http://himynameistina.com/)
This is an interactive platform to see how each party drug interacts with one another (https://combo.tripsit.me/)
This is a risk calculator for HIV transmission (https://hivrisk.cdc.gov/risk-estimator-tool/#+mb|iai)
Michelle: My name's Michelle Fischler, and this is GETSOME.
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As a sex therapist in my private practice, I see couples all over the spectrum. I see couples in hetero relationships. I see couples in queer relationships, and I see people who aren't in relationships at all.
When I see men that are in cisgender same sex relationships, there are certain themes that come up. For example, body image: I have a lot of people that aren't open to dating unless their body looks the way that they wanna look. Or maybe they, when it's really hot outside, and they won't take off their shirt because it's not up to par on what they think other gay men are gonna find attractive.[00:01:00]
Some men come to me concerned about their relationship with the dating app Grindr. They go in hard for like 24-48 hours. They have an experience and then they swear off of it for about a week until they get horny again. Another theme that I've noticed is that gay men aren't as concerned around premature ejaculation as they are around how hard they get.
I don't have a penis, and so I thought, why not talk to somebody who does? Today we're talking to Tim Lagman, certified sexology educator. I wanted to talk to Tim, number one because he's very outwardly gay.
When I was listening to your interview with Joe Kort, you called yourself a chaotic homo.
[00:01:55] Tim: That's me. I trademark it.
[00:01:59] Michelle: Number two [00:02:00] is he's really frigging funny.
[00:02:02] Tim: I will have a priapism while I am in the grave. It'll be so long it's coming right out of the ground. They're gonna have to dig me more than six feet down.
[00:02:15] Michelle: Number three. He really knows what he's talking about. He's super well educated.
[00:02:20] Tim: I teach the science of human sexuality from a comedic standpoint because sex is already such a sensitive subject, how to enjoy sex more and you know, basically live a much more fulfilling sex life.
[00:02:36] Michelle: Tim and I talked about sex and dating and gay relationships, but what we also talked about was drug use.
[00:02:44] Tim: Crystal meth is the most addictive drug when it comes to party drugs. It really does have that long lasting high. Then becomes like this 24 hour state of [00:03:00] arousal, this horniness, this like feel good sensation.
[00:03:05] Michelle: And we also talked about straight men that see gay sex workers.
[00:03:09] Tim: I was an escort from the ages of 19 to 23. I don't really bother questioning what people label themselves as. It's like, hey, you're hiring me for a specific service, however you identify, my job is to fulfill that service.
[00:03:26] Michelle: Here's my conversation with Tim.
Would you be able to explain, Tim...
[00:03:37] Tim: mm-hmm?
[00:03:37] Michelle: What is a certified sexology educator?
[00:03:42] Tim: Okay, well. First of all, I wanna say that even though I am a certified sexology educator, I never claimed to be a good one. I'll give trash advice. No, no. What I do is I try to teach sex from a comedic standpoint, because sex is already such a sensitive subject, [00:04:00] but basically I teach the science of human sexuality, like where the parts are, all that stuff. How to enjoy sex more, basically live a much more fulfilling sex life. So that could mean like choosing the proper toys, eating the right kinds of food, because your digestive health is directly linked to your sexual health. So I come from like a both scientific and holistic approach when it comes to teaching sex.
[00:04:30] Michelle: And you also have worked in the profession of sex work.
[00:04:36] Tim: Yes, I have. I was an escort from the ages of 19 to 23.
[00:04:42] Michelle: I did an interview with a sex worker and a past sex worker, but now is a psychotherapist. But we were talking about. The clients that come in [00:05:00] to see gay sex workers, and they were saying that the majority of the clients that gay sex workers see would be guys that identify as heterosexual. Would you say that that is something that you may have noticed?
[00:05:20] Tim: Well, here's the thing. When I was like that young, I don't really bother questioning what people label themselves as. It's like, hey, you're hiring me for a specific service, however you identify, my job is to fulfill that service. So I even had like heterosexual women hire me. They knew I was gay. So really, they hired me for non-sexual interaction, like more intimate encounters. The boyfriend experience, even the grandson experience.
[00:05:53] Michelle: The fucking grandson experience.
[00:05:55] Tim: Yeah.
[00:05:55] Michelle: Wow.
[00:05:56] Tim: Yep, yep. Which is like, you know, having tea with grandma [00:06:00] and like catching up. But when it came to male clients, I did have heterosexual, or at least self-identified heterosexual clients. And you know what? Hey, if you are hetero and a man and you want to experiment and fool around with another guy, I'd rather they do it in like a safe environment with someone who knows what they're doing.
[00:06:28] Michelle: Totally. You talked about this actually with Dr. Joe Kort, I think it was your season two, episode 27, and he was saying, look, you can be heterosexual. You can identify as being heterosexual and still give guys blowjob, right? And he differentiated the two. I think one was, you know, you can be hetero, but have an erotic sexuality [00:07:00] that where there's fantasy involved with, you know, having sex with another man, but when it comes to the romantic experience, they would want to be with somebody who's a woman. That was a very interesting conversation that I learned a lot about.
[00:07:21] Tim: Yeah. From that episode, Dr. Joe Kort posits that our sexual acts does not define how we identify. We identify because we identify however we want. For example, in the case of me, a gay man, I recently went out with a guy, super handsome, beard, chest, everything, and before we actually stripped down, he disclosed that he was trans. So I'm like, okay, well, so, do you want me to eat your pussy then? Yeah. He's like, yeah, yeah, [00:08:00] yeah, yeah. So I'm like, gladly. So does that mean me having intercourse with someone who has a vagina make me less gay? I don't think so. I was attracted to a dude. He just happened to have different parts than me.
[00:08:17] Michelle: That's really interesting around having a situation where you do show up with somebody sexually and then in that moment you get some information where there might be some other person who may not receive it in the same way as you. And so, I think it's amazing that they were able to have that really positive experience. But I could imagine that that's not always the case.
[00:08:44] Tim: Well, everyone that has sex with me always has a positive experience, not to toot my own horn.
[00:08:48] Michelle: Aw, hey, are you still working it as a sex worker? Like what are your rates?
[00:08:56] Tim: I'm semi-retired. I am [00:09:00] affordable for the average joe, but if you are making six figures, 500 for the hour.
[00:09:14] Michelle: When I think about the themes that pop up in my work with gay men, mm-hmm. The first is this focus on body image, correct? There appears to be this very big emphasis on muscles. And when there are people that no longer think that they measure up or never have measured up to that ideal, they will do all sorts of things to avoid situations such as if they don't feel good enough about their body, they won't take off their shirt at a club where everyone's taking off their shirt, or they'll withhold from dating [00:10:00] until they think that they look good enough. And I wanted to know, where does this Alpha male attraction, where does that come from? Why is that such a big piece?
[00:10:13] Tim: Well, we're socialized regardless of gay or straight. Men are socialized to be like taught muscles is macho, it's masculine, and to reach the peak masculinity is to look a certain way and earn a certain amount of income and it's so hard to unlearn that, right? Because whether you're gay or straight, but as a little boy, you see what it means to be a man. You gotta like drive the big cars and have a big penis and you know, have six pack abs and it's just so you know, reductive to [00:11:00] everything else that men should experience. Masculinity should expand beyond the physical and the financial, like we need to redefine masculinity.
[00:11:14] Michelle: I completely agree with you on that. It's really, really hard to be able to work with people and say, look, I'm hearing you like, I see it. I understand what you're saying. I know that there's a focus and a lot of our conversations are around Grindr.
[00:11:33] Tim: Not surprising.
[00:11:34] Michelle: Right. It's funny, people are, it's like this revolving door. They go on Grindr, then they need to like, give themselves two months off and then they, they go back on it because there's something about it that
[00:11:47] Tim: keeps 'em coming back like a toxic ex.
[00:11:50] Michelle: That's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is.
And so I think it really is difficult for guys who [00:12:00] either they're aging out, meaning that they used to be the macho person and they're aging and their muscles aren't as firm as they used to be, and trying to help people develop a better mindset around their body and their relationship with their body but ultimately, is it a real challenge for people to date who do not fall within that ideal, especially on places like Grindr?
[00:12:33] Tim: For the record, I will say that my body has gone through every single point in the skinny to macho to fat spectrum, like I have been everywhere. One time I had 2% body fat and one time I had like a belly that's huge. I can't even fit through the gate. And whenever I walk backwards you hear beep beep beep. So, so really your limitations [00:13:00] when it comes to gay dating are set on yourself. But that said, there is a shallowness when it comes to dating in the gay world because gay men are so fixated on the superficial, because again, we see masculinity as surface level only. So that gives a lot of men the gall, they think they have the permission to say, no fat, no fems, no whatever, and mask it as some sort of like, it's just a preference and it's not a preference, it's just discrimination.
[00:13:45] Michelle: Is that what some people will put on their Grindr account
[00:13:49] Tim: The most offensive, the most heinous things I've seen. No fat, no fem. I once got no Asian, [00:14:00] and then I also got the opposite - Asians only, or Filipinos to the front. And I have even seen someone try to get around that racial preference thing by putting on their profile blue and green eyes only. Clever. Okay. What if I just wear some contact lenses? Would that change your mind?
That's what you wanted, right?
[00:14:34] Michelle: Holy shit balls. Mm-hmm. Wow. And the other piece that is really interesting to me is with some of the guys that I work with, there is performance anxiety that comes up around whether or not their cock is going to get hard, is big enough, and there's less of a concern. There seems to be more understanding. And of course this is just [00:15:00] experiential from people that I see. There seems to be more of an understanding around, you know, if you come too fast or if there is some delayed ejaculation, it's taking a long time, but there is this idea that because they're a gay man, that they should have this spontaneous arousal. And so then when they realize that they need conversation, they wanna hang out with somebody first, they have these needs of wanting to connect and need some time for that. But a lot of other guys that are dating just really wanna fuck, and it's trying to navigate this with them.
[00:15:45] Tim: Yep. Well, here's the thing I wanna say to any guy or anyone with a penis out there, you're not a dildo, okay? A dildo is something that gets hard and stays hard [00:16:00] on command. You're a fucking person. And on the note of coming too fast or taking too long to come, I wanna ask you who said that there's a certain amount of time as to when to come, like who gets to gatekeep the timeframe of an ejaculation. Yeah, so everything that we're learning as men when it comes to sex is very much performance based instead of pleasure based. Like, you can have a ton of fun with a soft dick. I mean I do.
[00:16:37] Michelle: I fully agree.
[00:16:40] Tim: So we need to stop thinking that we have to be this porn star OnlyFans fucker, but like reshape our way into thinking that sex should be just about pleasure. We are responsible for our own pleasure. Don't make anybody else responsible for that. So just [00:17:00] because someone has a soft dick and then all of a sudden it's like, ugh, now I can't have any fun. Girl, grab a dildo, grab a vibrator. We're so focused on penetration as the only sexual act. Whatever happened to, I don't know, making out, kissing and a little bit of pinching, some ass clapping and I love a good rim job. Please. I will take a rim job for hours over getting fucked like any day. We need to stop focusing on the whole, like penetration equals sex. No. Penetration is a form of sex, but like diversify your sexual arsenal. You know, you can finger, you can use toys. Don't let your genitals be the only thing that you're focusing on. The entire body is a sexual thing.
[00:17:55] Michelle: Yes, it's an orchestra. You have lots and lots of [00:18:00] instruments that you can choose to play. Also, there's this emphasis on having a big cock too. And so I've seen it where people are coming in. Their partner is a top who has a really big penis and wants to have anal, but they are really struggling because it's quite painful. They were like, well, I should be able to do it. Because when I watch these porn videos where somebody has like an eggplant up their ass, they think, well, if somebody can have an eggplant up their ass, like I should be able to take this guy's cock.
[00:18:38] Tim: They've probably seen my video Then. Ooh, I gotta get that taken down. Oof.
[00:18:45] Michelle: Can people's asses get that big? Is it because they're taking poppers?
[00:18:52] Tim: First of all, big Dick does not necessarily mean better sex. That is false. Do not believe that. Sometimes too big is too [00:19:00] painful. I like an average dick because that hits my prostate so well. Whereas like a big dick is gonna go all the way into my throat and I'm like, whoa.
I'm not a barbecue. Please have mercy. Although I do wanna say to the tops listening that I do take a big dick. So, hey, hit me up. Next, is the asshole is very elastic. It can take quite the beating and it will go back to shape. Don't worry about it. Then poppers, if anyone that doesn't know what they are, is chemical amyl nitrate, a chemical that's normally found in leather cleaner or vhs tape cleaner. And what it does is that you take the little bottle that it comes in and [00:20:00] inhale the vapors, which then will loosen up your blood vessels than thus making your anus a lot more relaxed. It allows you to like take in much bigger objects or penises. I also need to say that in Canada it is not allowed, unfortunately, there's no selling of poppers. The danger with poppers is that even though it does make you horny and it does, Like increase arousal. There is this risk that because your blood vessels have opened up so much, there will be a sharp drop in your blood pressure, which can lead to heart attack or stroke. So use wisely and don't use poppers while you're in a sauna or if you're on any sort of heart medication, you wanna be safe when you're using it.[00:21:00]
[00:21:06] Michelle: Some of the work also that I do is trying, especially when I'm working with couples, where one person is more inclined to use party drugs than the other. What's coming to mind for me is crystal meth. Why does it seem to be a popular drug amongst gay men?
[00:21:24] Tim: Well, crystal meth is the most addictive drug when it comes to party drugs. It really does have that long lasting high, and the effect of crystal meth could be like, as long as 24 hours, and that's a long time to feel the effect of meth. So that then becomes like this 24 hour state of arousal, this horniness, this like feel good kind of sensation. [00:22:00] The problem with crystal meth is that the come down sucks. It is like one of the most painful headaches you're ever gonna have. You're gonna feel dehydrated. You're gonna have this horrible crash, and you could even like go into a seizure or clench your jaw to grind your teeth. It's really bad, but to answer your question, why that's so popular is because it's so highly addictive and it's long lasting.
[00:22:29] Michelle: Why do you think party drugs in general are so present in the gay culture.
[00:22:38] Tim: Well step into the shoes of a gay man and they'll tell you all of the stresses that come with it, right? Like some of the factors that come with living as a gay person walking this planet as a gay person is the horrible discrimination that you face. The [00:23:00] unfairness of the healthcare system, because we gay men have very specific needs when it comes to our healthcare. There's also the fact that for a long time gay men have been scapegoated as the cause of the HIV epidemic, right? So you have all of these things that are coming at you and nobody's willing to help or hear you out. The only reprieve that we can find is drugs and substances, alcohol, marijuana, cocaine, everything. And especially in the spaces that were allowed to exist, which is like the gay bars and like the club scene, we're gonna bring all that stress with us, plus all that sense of release into the spaces that we're allowed to exist in. That's why there's so much party drugs within the gay community.
[00:23:57] Michelle: Hmm. [00:24:00] Yeah. And also what I see is a lot of shame that is tied to their sexuality in either what it is that they like to do sexually. I think the shame is that they've grown up hiding this part of themselves for such a long time that it has been hidden. And so to actually put it out there, I imagine that drugs can give you maybe a bit more confidence or take some of that fear away. And obviously, yeah, it might give it to you in that moment, but then after you end up feeling like you know, complete shit when you [00:25:00] have like, this major hangover, right, and are really struggling the next day it is trying to navigate having that harm reduction approach to the work that we do.
[00:25:12] Tim: Exactly. Yeah. I don't believe in like abstinence only sex education. I don't believe in no substance use at all education. The correct philosophy, and it's been proven to work, is harm reduction because when you give people the information, the correct information, you're giving them power and you're giving them choice. You're giving them autonomy over what they wanna do with their bodies. So I really love services like safe injection sites that like will test the substances for you, that will make sure to resuscitate you should you ever like overdose and they'll even test your drugs for you. Like and to see if there's any other impurities that are [00:26:00] present in your mix. So that gives people the power that, okay, yeah, I will want to use, but also I don't wanna die. So I'd rather go to a place that's gonna ensure that I'm going to live and I can still feel good and not get reprimanded for it.
[00:26:22] Michelle: Yeah. I'm so curious how sex has changed amongst gay men since PrEP came out and PrEP is pre-exposure prophylaxis. It's a medication that can, I believe, reduce your chance of getting and passing on HIV. Is that correct?
[00:26:46] Tim: Yes, so prep pre-exposure prophylaxis is an umbrella term for many different HIV prevention medications. It is a pill that you take regularly [00:27:00] only if you are HIV negative. So that means you have zero viral load, you've tested negative over and over again, and basically what PrEP does, is that it builds like a sort of shield in your body so that if you ever come into contact with an HIV positive person or any sort of like bloodborne infection, you're not giving that HIV the chance to replicate itself. So you're like stopping HIV in its tracks when you're on PrEP. And it's changed the way that gay men have had sex because for a long time, since like the HIV epidemic in the eighties. It was considered a death sentence. Like there's no way that you're ever going to live if you test positive. And for a point in our dark history [00:28:00] as humans, it was called the gay cancer, right? There's another terminology called GRID, gay related immune disease. So when that was around, there was a pill, AZT, that was used to treat HIV. However, that was extremely toxic, so that could lead to a lot of negative side effects up to and including death. Then PrEP was introduced, which is like a much safer way to prevent HIV from spreading, and that has like a 99% efficacy rate, which is amazing, right? Like now I can go have sex with like way more people, not just HIV negative people. A lot of my partners actually are HIV positive and I'm on PrEP. I've been on PrEP since 2017, and let me tell y'all. When [00:29:00] you have that peace of mind, oh my God. Rail me to the high heavens.
[00:29:06] Michelle: Totally. It's expensive though, isn't it?
[00:29:11] Tim: A little bit like, I'm not too sure. Please don't quote me on the price, but I think it's like $200 for one month supply. However, in Ontario it is covered by OHIP, at least a portion of it is covered by OHIP. And then there are some clinics out there that have like a patient support program where they'll cover a huge chunk of it, and then you can like, yeah, cover the remaining out of pocket. And insurance is also covering PrEP. Because it's prescribed.
[00:29:41] Michelle: Yeah. I wondered if it's changed the use of condoms. Do less people use condoms now?
[00:29:49] Tim: So yes, it has like made people be more bold in terms of their sexual choices because they think that once they have [00:30:00] PrEP, they can just have unprotected sex. But here's the news, PrEP doesn't stop other STIs, such as gonorrhea. PrEP will only be a preventative measure for HIV. So you should still use condoms to prevent those other STIs. If you're listening to this and you're an HIV positive person, you are getting null viral load because if you're undetectable, you can't pass on the virus to other people and just like make sure that we're all watching out for each other, especially yourself, because we're all responsible for our sexual health.
[00:30:44] Michelle: I really hope that, especially guys who are either bisexual or in hetero relationships, but having sex with other guys, I think oftentimes when people are [00:31:00] doing that in secrecy, they aren't necessarily paying attention to their sexual health in terms of condoms, and so unfortunately, I've also seen people not using PrEP who are bisexual and then getting infected with HIV and then infecting their partner. And so that's how the betrayal or whatever you wanna call it affair comes to light and I think the rates right now are of HIV have increased a little bit for, uh, women in Canada anyways.
[00:31:34] Tim: I'm just like thinking about why is there so much shame when it comes to that specific area of sexuality? Like, wouldn't it be so much easier if we were just, all honest to our partners and what exactly it is that we're doing.
[00:31:49] Michelle: People are so afraid of, of loss, being alone, losing their partner, rejection, all of those things. It's [00:32:00] just very, very difficult for them when they keep it as a secret because they're terrified of what it could mean.
[00:32:07] Tim: Put on your big boy and big girl pants people.
[00:32:10] Michelle: When you're a gay guy, and let's just say you are kind of done with just the casual fucking, where can you date when you're trying to find more of a romantic connection?
[00:32:24] Tim: Well, I know that Grindr has this hookup reputation, but really it's up to us to place those boundaries on our dating profiles, whatever app that you're using. Like we as the gay community have labeled Grindr as the hookup place, but I've seen some people connect and get married because they met through Grindr, you know, or other apps like what was previously known as is now Field. Scruff. And then there's [00:33:00] OkCupid, Bumble. The whole point that I'm trying to make is that do not limit yourself to just casual hookups. If you want that, go ahead, by all means, but it is up to you to set those boundaries and how you interact with other people online. Say that, hey, this is what I want. I actually want a relationship and I'm actually monogamous, and what are your thoughts on that? Then if they don't want it, then bye. Right? It's up to you to take accountability for your own dating actions.
[00:33:36] Michelle: Is there anything that maybe I haven't asked you about that you think. If there was a listener out there that was really, I don't know, enjoying what we're talking about. If there was something that you've seen come up in your work, is there anything that you would add to this conversation?
[00:33:56] Tim: I would tell all your listeners to [00:34:00] masturbate more because. As RuPaul herself once said, if you can't fuck yourself, how in the hell are you gonna fuck somebody else? I'm paraphrasing, but you know, so learn how to please yourself. Don't be afraid to buy toys and set clear boundaries and. I'm a bottom right now, so hit me up if you're a top.
[00:34:28] Michelle: Other than in your bedroom naked on your bed. Where can people find you?
[00:34:34] Tim: In the nearest bathroom stall. People can find me on my website, sexedwithtim.com. Both my Twitter and Instagram are @sexedwithtim. Because I said buy more sex toys, for anyone listening, loveshop.ca/sexedwithtim. Use sexedwithtim at checkout for 15% [00:35:00] off.
[00:35:00] Michelle: Woo woo. Tim, it was. So fun having this conversation with you. Thank you for being here.
[00:35:11] Tim: Thank you. And make sure everyone has done their taxes. You want that refund, baby!
[00:35:23] Michelle: That was my conversation with Tim. This show is produced by Katie Jensen at Vocal Fry Studios. If you have show ideas or a question you want me to answer in an episode, email me at michelle@getsome.ca and don't forget to follow me on Instagram @getsome_podcast You'll get insights on sex and sexuality, dating tips, and behind the scenes between episodes. Thank you for listening.